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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:03 pm 
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So it continues.....one brand cries foul when they use more fuel than another brand, and the powers that be continue to penalise the brands who have developed their engine management to the best of their ability within the rules.......For god sake make it stop. Whilst I'm no fan of COTF / V8 Supercars, if you can't run with the big dogs, park it.

The forced parity that V8 Supercars continues to enforce is the biggest load of BS.

Next year, run these boys. At least no one will complain they are running at a disadvantage.

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Given the damage the cars get at Homebush, this would be a better option.

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V8 Supercars News » Compulsory pitstops for Sydney 500


Compulsory pitstops for Sydney 500
Monday 2nd December, 2013 6:01pm
Author: Stefan Bartholomaeus ©


Compulsory pitstops will return for the Sydney 500

V8 Supercars has confirmed that there will be two compulsory pitstops in each leg of the Sydney 500 after an application from Erebus Motorsport to repeat the Gold Coast’s fuel drop method was knocked back.

Compulsory pitstops have been seen at the Adelaide, Sandown and Bathurst events this year in an attempt to minimise the disadvantage of higher fuel consumption for the Nissan and Mercedes entries.

A minimum in-race fuel drop was used in place of a CPS number on the Gold Coast, and will be mandated for all fuel races outside of the Pirtek Enduro Cup next year.

The drop was touted prior to the Gold Coast as a more equitable way of levelling the playing field as it ensures that the stationary fill-time is the same across all cars.

A submission from Erebus to have the fuel drop implemented for Sydney was, however, denied by V8 Supercars on the grounds that there was not enough time to instigate the system prior to the event.

The method used on the Gold Coast required scrutineers to repeatedly measure and calculate the fuel dispensed via an external tube added to the fuel rigs.

It is said that a more streamlined process will be introduced next year in order to minimise the possibility of human error causing discrepancies.

V8 Supercars general manager for motorsport, Damien White, confirmed to Speedcafe.com that time was a limiting factor ahead of this week’s Sydney event.

“There are operational difficulties in ensuring accuracy of the fuel drop,” he said.

“The processes applied at the Gold Coast couldn’t be finalised in the timeline provided.

“V8 Supercars has a method that we will be adopting for 2014 that provides a 100 percent reliable and fool-proof method of ensuring the fuel drop as mandated is complied with.”

Erebus general manager Ross Stone expressed his frustration with the decision against the fuel drop.

“The fuel drop worked very well on the Gold Coast and proved that it levelled the playing field,” he told Speedcafe.com.

“The compulsory pitstops are all well and good but they do nothing to help the stationary time disadvantage, which is a major problem.

“V8 Supercars needs to be more proactive when it comes to these things because it was always going to be an issue for Sydney.

“We reacted and put in our submission within the communication guidelines provided, so it’s really frustrating to end up with this outcome.”

Erebus does not hold a seat on the V8 Supercars Commission that rules on such issues, although has recently been added to the meetings as an observer.

The compulsory stops in Sydney are not allowed to be completed until the sixth lap in order to ensure that teams cannot take advantage of a Safety Car instigated by an early incident

Even the more frugal Holdens and Fords are expected to need two stops to complete the journey regardless of the CPS requirement, unless the race is punctuated by extensive Safety Car periods.

Meanwhile, a draft of the 2014 regulations sent to teams earlier this month confirmed that V8 Supercars currently has no intention to deliver any economy-levelling solution for the Pirtek Enduro Cup next year.

Analysis of consumption rates across the Holden, Ford, Nissan, Mercedes and new Volvo engines during the early part of the year will likely determine whether that position will be reviewed.

Fuel consumption parity dominated discussion leading into this year’s endurance races and included the controversial trialling of a 70 percent fuel blend during Race 27 at Winton, which was won by Nissan’s James Moffat.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 8:56 pm 
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No cant use the dodgems. These so called pro drivers are to affraid to touch each other without getting a penalty. What happened to rubbings racing. And dont get me started with how drivers on multimillion dollar contracts are to scared to drive in a bit of rain.

Was watching midday tv the other day while having lunch at work and they had Sir Stirling Moss talking about race drivers from his era and current and saying that now they have no feel for the car and no sense of danger like in his day. Everything is suppose to be so perfect and safe that anyone could have a go.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:41 pm 
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They would still find something to fight over.Theres no point in making the car better in certain airea's as you will be handycaped in the long run if the other teams dont have the know how to match you.
How about have everyone drive the same car and the best lap wins.I am f..... discusted in how the v8's have gone.
Its dont work to hard or do to well and win to many racers or you will have every one else trying to drag you back to their best,Whitch is way below your best.
Everyone wants to win without the hard yards.
Even in 85 with a basicly stock standard vk Peter Brock got to 2nd place against the Jages.How would you stop him from doing well,Ial tell you,You take him out of the car.
Half of the drivers today are spoilt brats.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:17 pm 
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production car races is where its at, no one can argue driven by the seat of your pants lol
I for one no longer watch v8's so many better races out there that just don't get the publicity the supercars get !!!

what ever happened to race on sun drive on mon OR even being able to go to holden & ford buying the same car if this was still the case and true passion was around without the hype,

maybe just maybe holden ford would be better off and not looking down the eye of a shotgun!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:37 pm 
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So true Ben.
If they raced what they sold they might sell more like you said Ben.


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